MSDN Visual Studio 2010 (You have to be a MSDN Subscriber for this link to work)
MSDN Library - Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1 (i.e. The Doc’s)
That about says it all…
This is an exciting release, maybe the most exciting release of Visual Studio since… well… ever? This could be, sort of, kind of, considered Generation v3. VS.Net/2003 as Gen v1, VS 2005/2008 as Gen v2 and now VS2010. Yeah, okay, so I maybe stretching it a little… LOL :p
No VPC yet, but I’d guess one will come in the near future.
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Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1 available to MSDN subscribers tomorrow, Monday, May 18th, says Microsoft Australia Blogger
well good for u greg
ReplyDeleteand if i am not mistaken it will befor the public tomorrow is that right
anyway
"No VPC yet, but I’d guess one will come in the near future."
u mean the one with 23 GB
are u kidding u want that why
tell me how is the size with the one u download it and which version is available (professional-team suite-...)
and how isthe size with the msdn library
well thanks for the updating
see my reply in ur video in channel 9
my regards
Athman
Yes, it will be available to the Public tomorrow (Wednesday, May 20)
ReplyDeleteAs for the the VPC, I'd like to be able to throw it on a production machine without installing it. You should really NEVER install beta stuff on an important machine. That's the beauty of VPC's.
That said, I'm glad they started with the installer first. That was a "must" and the VPC is just a "want"
The Professional unstall was just a little smaller than the Suite install at 1,164 MB (Suite = 1,258 MB)
There's currently no version with the MSDN Library (which is why the downloads/ISO's are pretty small). An offline version of the MSDN Library is not yet available. There WILL be an offline version, it's just not ready yet...
wow thanks again
ReplyDeleteso it is just little than 1.5 gb it is awesome i mean it is like the last version
now abt this
"You should really NEVER install beta stuff on an important machine"
why is that
and if u want to do it in VP just make ur own virtual p and install visual studio on it
or use their old version which 23 gb and remove the visual studio and install the beta
ok out of the subject
what other advantage for u as msdn subsription
i mean just 2 day differene between public and u for the visual studio
and is the visual studio as windows 7 will be work for one year or they will release RC befor the final release also
You should never put beta on production/important machines because beta's break things. Heck you should avoid putting RC's on production/important machines... (unless you have a "Go Live" license... then it can be considered)
ReplyDeleteBetas are broken. They have bugs, they are work in progress, they are early looks into what "might" be coming.
Once you've jacked a machine or two putting beta's on it then you'll learn the hard lesson. Don't put betas on production UNLESS you are willing to re-pave (nuke and re-install everything, etc) that machine.
That's the beauty of virtual machines. You CAN put that beta on your production machine because it's sandboxed into that virtual machine. It can't reach out and break the host... And you can remove it completely with one simple delete...
Yeah, creating a VPC is pretty easy, but using the PDC/CTP you'd have to uninstall tons just to get it to the point of being a good install source. Plus there are other VPC's you can get with XP/Vista that might also be a good source. But I'd rather MS provide a VPC with Suite 2010, TFS, SQL, WSS, Office, etc, etc on it so all I have to do is download and go. Again it's a "wish" not a "need"
The advantages of MSDN Subscription are almost too numerous to list. I would hate ever being a MS dev without a MSDN sub. In this one case, it's only a two day advantage, but even then I'd bet that what you get on the MSDN will be different than what the public gets (i.e. same version but maybe more options on MSDN, etc). Then there's the tons of other resources on MSDN. And Win7 and older versions of Visual Studio. And Office. And, and, and... MSDN Sub is simply the Bomb!
I do not know that the RC plans for VS2010 are at this point. I know there's work going on on Beta 2, but that's all I know for sure (and I don't know the release date for Beta 2). Given the scope of VSTS2010 I'd expect an RC before RTM, but that's just a guess...
ok lets just wait for tomorrow and see whats is going to happen
ReplyDeleteabt the msdn subscription i had
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3025/aaaocr.jpg
and as you c there r all ready upload windows 7 but no sign abt VS2010 anyway it is just a day to wait
abt the msdn subscription(just for chat) i dont think it is beneficial for me for this reasons
1- toooooooooooooooo expensive (i know it has very awesome beneficial)
2- i am student (no company to pay for that
3-medical student not IT student(but programming amateur and maybe professional i did a lot of projects for many ompanies so that i can manage between the two science )
i hope the last reason doesnt let u ignore me beause i am really among my IT friends more better than them
anyway thanks alot for ur answering with me
Athman
Thanks for sharing that screenshot. This is the first I've seen that and it was an eye opener. It wasn't what I was expecting (I was thinking it would be something more like what I see, just with less "stuff")
ReplyDeleteAs for the cost, yeah I hear you. I don't know if I could ever justify a personal MSDN Subscription. I've always gotten mine via work.
But there is one way, though not easy, to get a free MSDN Subscription. Be awarded an Microsoft MVP. The Microsoft MVP Award Program Blog & MVP Award. This is an award you earn though your efforts in the community. It's not easy (cough... I don't have one yet either... cough...) but the key is that you don't have to be a "professional developer" to be awarded it. Anyway, check out the sites for more information on it...
As for ignoring you... Dude, I boot strapped myself into development. I learned it on my time, on my dime and through many hours of sweat and tears.
It's the passion that drives, not the degree on the wall... Passion for geekdom and development is what counts. :)
Welcome to the club. LOL :P
Also included in VS2010 (and included in this beta release) are significant extensions to Dotfuscator CE that permit
ReplyDelete* the injection of feature and session monitoring (streaming usage data to a developer-specified endpoint),
* the injection of application expiry dates, and
* the injection of tamper defense and notification.
Opt-in/Opt-out logic can also be injected.
Microsoft first announced this functionality at PDC2008
http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2008/oct08/10-27PreEmptivePR.mspx
If you want a detailed walk through, check out Bill Leach’s blog entry at http://blogs.preemptive.com/post/Whate28099s-new-with-Dotfuscator-in-Visual-Studio-2010-Beta-1.aspx
And for those that subscribe to Directions On Microsoft, there is a review of this functionality included in the June Update